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I'm John Dax with my good colleagues.

Reneste Arousa, former foreign minister to the Republic of Brazil.

He's in Africa.

And Alejandro Pena Excluza, he is in Europe.

He is a Venezuelan writer and thinker and geopolitical observer.

Gentlemen, your countries are critical to the success of the Western Hemisphere. So, Ernesto,

I come to you. What does the upset in Venezuela mean for Brazil, mean for the people of Brazil. They're watching it closely

through the news. What do they take from it? Well, John, I think most people would say,

the same thing I'm going to say, Brazil's and Venezuelans fortunes are tied together,

our fates are tied together. We can either go together and succumb to a totalitarian nightmare,

or we can liberate ourselves together with the help,

the essential help of the United States.

I remember early in 2019 when I was foreign minister and we had a very

assertive foreign policy against the terrorist regime of Maduro. I was in the border

of Colombia and Venezuela in a most lateral event to support the Venezuelan people against Maduro.

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