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HEADLINE: Dworkin on Three Evolving Character Types Defining American Conservatism GUEST NAME: Ronald W. Dworkin SUMMARY: Ronald W. Dworkin categorizes American conservatism by three evolving character types: Puritans, Pioneers, and Robber Barons, arguin

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 20 September 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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HEADLINE: Dworkin on Three Evolving Character Types Defining American Conservatism
GUEST NAME: Ronald W. Dworkin
SUMMARY: Ronald W. Dworkin categorizes American conservatism by three evolving character types: Puritans, Pioneers, and Robber Barons, arguing the Trump movement is a bottom-up union of their modern interests.
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This is CBSI on the world. I'm John Batchelor. The Puritans, the pioneers, the robber barons.

0:36.9

I welcome Ronald W. Dworkin, a fellow at the Institute for Advanced Studies and Culture, University of Virginia.

0:39.7

Professor, a very good evening to you. Your essay at Civitas Outlook, part of Civitas Institute,

0:44.4

is highly entertaining, at the same time revelatory of these last decades that I've lived through

0:50.4

with the word conservatism floating all around me. I used to be so frustrated with my

0:56.0

understanding that I would say, Republican, okay? No modifier, Republican. But that's not adequate to the

1:02.9

years we pass through in the presidential epochs. And we're now in an unusual epoch, we'd have to

1:09.3

say the least, for Republican presidents.

1:11.3

However, to begin at the beginning, you identify three strands of conservatism in America based upon

1:18.9

what should have to say, opera, the Puritan, the pioneer, and the robber baron.

1:25.3

Let's begin with a Puritan.

1:26.9

What is the characteristic of the Puritans who prospered in America?

1:31.0

Good evening to you, Professor.

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