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I'm Ian Koss, and welcome to the first of two bonus episodes for our series Catching the Codfather.

So we ended our final chapter of the series talking about a landmark Supreme Court case,

one that could change how the entire federal government makes regulation of all kinds.

But the case was brought by a group of fishermen, working under the same system of regulations we've traced throughout the series.

And John Vecione is one of the lawyers representing those fishermen.

So tell me about your background. What's that boat behind you, I see?

All right. So behind me is the actual Relentless, which was the companion case to Loper Bright.

They argued the same day. And I was counsel of record for Relentless, meaning I filed the complaint and got it to the Supreme Court.

I talked to John earlier this year, right as we launched the season, because I wanted an update.

What has the actual impact been of that Supreme Court ruling?

Has it changed the way courts are treating cases about regulation?

What about the new presidential administration?

Has it changed how they are writing new regulations?

And whatever happened to the fishermen who brought the case in the first place?

It turns out this story has continued to unfold in interesting ways.

And John is not in any way done with his work of challenging what he sees as unreasonable government regulation.

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