What you need to know when buying fish, with Roger Berkowitz
The Big Dig
GBH News
4.8 • 2.1K Ratings
🗓️ 1 April 2026
⏱️ 36 minutes
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Summary
Buying fish can be a puzzling process. It comes frozen and fresh, wild and farmed, from many different countries, and with all kinds of ratings and labels. So what does it all mean?
For this bonus episode to “Catching The Codfather,” Ian sits down with a legend of New England seafood, Roger Berkowitz, to talk about his life in fish buying and what he’s learned along the way.
Major sponsorship for “Catching The Codfather” is provided by Roger’s Fish Co.
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| 0:00.0 | Disney's Zootopia 2 is the highest grossing animated film of all time. |
| 0:07.0 | It's also the source of the strangest Hollywood story you have ever heard. |
| 0:12.0 | I'm Malcolm Gladwell, and on my podcast, Revision is History, |
| 0:16.0 | we're telling a story that invites so much absurd speculation |
| 0:20.0 | that we're going to have to tell it across two |
| 0:22.2 | episodes. You will almost certainly feel compelled to seize Utopia 2 for yourself. And if you |
| 0:27.9 | already have, you may need to see it again. Listen to our bizarre two-part series on Revisionist |
| 0:34.4 | History, wherever you get your podcast. |
| 0:43.6 | Support for Catching the Codfather comes from Rogers Fish Company, founded by lifelong fishmonger and seafood advocate Roger Berkowitz. |
| 0:47.3 | Rogers Fish Company brings responsibly sourced seafood and chef-crafted meals straight to your |
| 0:53.0 | door. Order online at Rogersfishco.com. |
| 0:57.3 | And also from Seasons 4, the outdoor living store in Lexington, |
| 1:02.3 | featuring over 100 styles of outdoor furniture delivered throughout New England, |
| 1:07.0 | plus plants and garden accessories, |
| 1:09.4 | now offering 10% off most in-stock furniture. |
| 1:13.0 | Season's 4.com. |
| 1:17.9 | As I was working on this series, Catching the Codfather, I would end my days with two somewhat |
| 1:24.2 | conflicting feelings. One, that I want to eat fish for dinner. |
| 1:28.9 | Two, that I'm not sure if I should be eating fish for dinner. |
| 1:32.9 | Or at the very least, not sure what kind of fish I should be eating, where I should get it, |
| 1:38.2 | what I need to know about it. |
| 1:40.4 | So all along, I wanted to do a bonus episode looking squarely at the food piece of this story, a diner's guide, if you will. |
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