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The Big Dig

Catching The Codfather | 6. It’s Your Job to Catch Me

The Big Dig

GBH News

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4.82.1K Ratings

🗓️ 18 March 2026

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

A new revelation forces federal investigators to close down the case, fast. But what will taking down The Codfather mean for the port of New Bedford?

Major sponsorship for "Catching The Codfather" is provided by Roger’s Fish Co.

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Credits:

Host and Scriptwriter: Ian Coss

Executive Producer: Devin Maverick Robins

Producers: Isabel Hibbard and Ian Coss

Story Editor: Lacy Roberts

Editorial Advisor: Jenifer McKim

Fact-checkers: Ryan Alderman and Isabel Hibbard

Intern: Fiona Boyd 

Scoring and Music Supervision: Ian Coss

Graphic Design: Bill Miller

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:06.1

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0:13.5

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0:26.2

as young as middle school identify their strengths and find careers that fit them just right. Learn more at

0:33.0

B-R-I-T-E-Bound.org. Let's recap the

0:41.0

investigation into Carlos Rafael so far.

0:44.8

In January of 2015, Carlos announced his business was for sale.

0:49.9

In May, the IRS agents reached out pretending to be potential buyers, and in June they met twice

0:57.0

to discuss the details of the business.

1:00.1

By the end of the summer, it's clear that there's a case that Carlos is doing something

1:05.1

illegal involving fish.

1:07.6

What's not so clear is where all that fish is going and where all the money is going.

1:14.2

So in the fall of 2015, case agent Ron Mullet instructed his undercovers to go back to Carlos

1:20.3

once again, this time with a specific purpose.

1:23.9

This money's got to be somewhere else. I need you to get me the show me the money moment.

1:28.2

Like if there's nothing else that you talk to him about, he's got to show you the money.

1:33.0

This meeting was in a more casual setting, a seafood restaurant just up the coast from New Bedford.

1:38.5

Carlos had been wanting to give his buyers a real taste of what they are getting, And this would be the perfect place to do that.

1:45.2

So everyone piled into the agent's BMW 5 series, the sport version with the V8 engine, and went for lunch.

1:52.3

One agent told me, I made sure to drive like a crazy Russian mobster, you know, to keep character.

1:59.1

You guys are doing all the time?

2:00.5

It's great. Thank you. You guys have coffee in your own? Yeah. Carlos and his guests were seated in a private room, where Carlos ordered for everyone, seafood, of course, and where he was very much in his element. He had his own wine at the restaurant. Nobody else could buy it. They only had it for him.

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