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Politics Unpacked

Has Trump Won The War?

Politics Unpacked

Anna Covell

Politics, News & Politics, News

4.11.4K Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2026

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Iran has agreed to a ceasefire with the US after Trump promised to destroy it - but with the biggest issues still unresolved, can he really claim victory?


Hugo Rifkind unpacks the politics of the day with Alice Thomson and Trevor Phillips.


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0:00.0

Hello, hello, I'm Hugo Rifkin, and now we're going to be unpacking the politics of the day

0:09.1

from Donald Trump's negotiation tactics to whether doctors unions need better PR and how Rishi Sunak got himself injured by showing off.

0:16.2

There is no Robert Crampton today, so no showing off in here.

0:18.9

But we are joined as usual by Alice Thompson. Hello, Alice. Hi, Hugo. How are you? I'm very well, thank you. And we are also joined by Trevor Phillips. Hello, sir. Hello, can I do some showing off from here? You can indeed, yes. I work on it. Look, I can't see you down the line, but it is traditional for Robert Crampton and Alice Thompson to be dressed the same. So I'm going to assume that you're wearing a brand t-shirt and a pinstripe suit.

0:53.8

Not the t-shirt. Well, it works for me. But the trin-tripe suit. Look, let's crack on. We've got an awful lot to cover. We could have working up this morning to the news of widespread destruction in Iran. Instead, we have a two-week pause in the fighting and the reopening of the straight of Hormuz.

0:56.0

Donald Trump's critics say the sudden de-escalation of widespread destruction in Iran. Instead, we have a two-week pause in the fighting and the reopening of the straight of

0:55.0

Hamas.

0:56.1

Donald Trump's critics say the sudden de-escalation is another example of him chickening out

1:00.1

and that his reckless rhetoric risks long-term damage to America's global reputation.

1:04.5

His supporters, though, say this is exactly what brinkmanship looks like, and he got what

1:08.6

he wanted and the pressure forced to run to back down.

1:11.6

What do you reckon, Alice? No, I think actually now we're sort of seeing Trump slowly falling apart and everything sounds more and more hysterical and before we thought it could be. We were trying to give him the benefit of a doubt it could have been a sort of brinkman ship. But it doesn't know anything like that now, does it? I mean, now it just looks like the Iranians, you know, they'll go back to trying to get their nuclear power. There hasn't really been regime change. That they've still got the straits that they're, you know, they're dominating those straits and they still could charge. More so than before. So they could charge boats to go through it. So actually in every way he hasn't succeeded and it looks more like a sort of Vietnam situation and I think that's what people will feel around the world. What do you think,

1:47.6

Trevor? I think that we should not be viewing this through the lens of whether Donald Trump

1:55.8

has won or not. I think that that's got us sent to a very odd place where all geopolitics is now being

2:05.4

interpreted by whether Donald Trump's psychology is worked or not. I think there are two problems

2:13.0

with that. First of all, it means that we don't really assess whether things have changed in the right

2:20.6

way or not.

2:21.3

And from the Trump point of view, he would say, this is not a football match.

2:25.8

You know, it's not a scoring thing.

2:28.2

Is he better off?

2:29.1

Yeah.

2:30.0

Iran is degraded.

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