Welcome back to the City Journal podcast.

I'm your host, Charles Fain-Lean, Lehmann, Institute, and senior editor of City Journal.

Joining me today on our panel, Ruffa Menguil,

crime policy researcher at the Manhattan Institute,

Jesse Yarm, who directs all things policy at the Manhattan Institute

and Talfort Gang, Legal Policy Fellow and Anti-Civil Terrorist at the Manhattan Institute.

Gentlemen, thanks for being on.

I want to take us right into the news of the day. Last weekend, Pennsylvania governor Josh Shapiro's home was attacked

in a fire bombing or attempted fire bombing by 38-year-old Cody Bomber. Bomber police say was motivated by his belief that Shapiro was going to do terrible things to the people of Gaza.

He was also out on bail, and three days earlier, his mother had failed to have him committed based on the standards in Pennsylvania.

So really a whole rolling mess there in Pennsylvania that has, in my view, not gotten enough attention in the media,

which is part of our want to talk about it today. But why don't we start, Ralph, what's your,

you know, what's your assessment situation? What do you make of this story? What does this story

say about the broader environment?

It's such a rich story, right? It's kind of got a little bit of everything. I mean,

things that we've been talking about, the Manhattan Institute forever, you've got a guy who was just

recently arrested, released pretrial despite clearly being out of his mind. You have his mother trying to have him civilly

committed. So we've been talking a lot about the problem of serious mental illness and, you know,

the lack of fortitude on the part of states and cities around the country to actually take the steps

needed to get crazy people off the street before they actually do something terrible.

So you've got this kind of like criminal justice policy angle to play here.

But, you know, I think the thing that most people are going to find most outrageous is what you highlighted at the very end, which is the media coverage of this.

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