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Harvard’s “Mother of Mindfulness” on the Unbelievable Mind-Body Connection

Radio Headspace

Headspace Studios

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.62.4K Ratings

🗓️ 17 August 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Dr. Ellen J. Langer — Harvard’s first tenured female psychology professor, bestselling author, and the world‑renowned “Mother of Mindfulness” — joins Rosie to explore the unbelievable mind-body connection. Hear how her groundbreaking research reveals that our thoughts can shape our health, aging, and even healing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Fact of the matter is nobody knows. You can't know because everything is changing.

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Hey everyone, it's Rosie here. Welcome back to Radio Headspace. Today I'm joined by Dr. Ellen Langer, a Harvard psychologist who spent

1:14.0

decades studying the mind-body connection. It's an incredibly fascinating theory that

1:19.6

thoughts don't just influence your body. They are your body. And trust me, I had many questions,

1:26.8

and she answered all of them. We talk about why healing

1:30.5

isn't just physical, how shifting your perspective can lead to real change in your mind and body,

1:36.7

and why embracing uncertainty might be one of the healthiest things you can do. This was a very

1:42.7

eye-opening conversation for me, and I hope you

1:45.5

enjoy it. So one of the one of the things that I wanted to discuss with you today, you've said that

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