Buckle up, everybody. This is going to be one of the deepest dives you've ever done with two professors that are interested both theoretically and experimentally on the greatest cosmic mysteries of our time. And our guest today isn't just some basic scientist. He's one of our best friends. He's a boundary-breaking astrophysicist at New York Times best-selling author. And the man leading the charge to bring real scientific rigor

to the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. And that's the one and only Professor Avi Lowe.

Avi, how are you? I'm doing great. There are lots of things going on at the same time. And I can tell

you one anecdote. Just a couple of days ago, I was speaking with organizers of a future

lecture that I'm supposed to give to a group of the most accomplished CEOs in the world, plus

some celebrities. And that includes, I asked my wife if she's okay if I have breakfast with

Margot Robbie, and she said yes definitely that's how

much she trusts me at any event that the organizer asked me what should be the title of

your talk I'm supposed to give a presentation and I said maybe hunting for aliens and he was at first

worried that the audience members members of the audience, would assume that I'm

working for the U.S. government and, you know, searching for illegal aliens at the southern

border wall.

I explained that, you know, no two-dimensional wall that is erected from Earth can stop the actual aliens from coming because they would come from above.

And moreover, they were on their trip for very long probably and do not have proper visa.

And if we wanted to deport them, you know, it would actually be very expensive. It would

cost more than a billion dollars per flight. And moreover, it will take a long time to bring them

back to their home planet, probably more than a billion years with chemical propulsion. And so I

suggested that it's better we get used to them and live with them.

And perhaps, you know, that is the ultimate way of fulfilling diversity and inclusion on a

galactic scale.

Yes.

It's just one example, but I need, you know, the past month has been particularly amazing.

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