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You're listening to an upstream interview with Liz Ziedler, co-founder and director of Happy City

Bristol. Welcome Liz. Could you please introduce yourself to our audience? Okay, so I'm Liz Ziedler and I have been running Happy City

for about six years.

But prior to that, I did all sorts of really interesting things,

mostly working around the world, supporting leadership

and change at lots of different levels.

So I used to do a lot of facilitation of big global events, trying to get people to have better

conversations about the things that really matter.

I helped run a leadership program that was designed in Africa by an amazing variety of African facilitators

and I supported them to try and take that to other parts of the world

which was quite exciting the idea of taking an African model of leadership elsewhere.

So I did some of that right across Africa and the Middle East and Eastern Europe and the UK as well.

Before that I did a master's in international development while my children were quite small, so I'm also a mum.

I have three adult children. Yeah yeah I've done all sorts of

bits and pieces mostly in social enterprise sustainability and social justice

kind of worlds over the years but yeah sort of 25 years of doing a lot of

different things in a lot of different places. Just a quick note about what you

mean by African leadership. So it was a really amazing program based on lots of global ideas like systems thinking and appreciative inquiry

But right at its heart was the notion of a buntu which you may or may not have heard of so the notion that I am because you are because we are it was very much at the heart of it.

So how do we lead in a way that supports that much more interdependent

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