Hello, Ben you were talking a minute ago about line bikes just before we went on air.

Yeah, these are the bikes you can hire from the street in London.

These are street, these are street higher bikes. We did have that system in Cardiff for a while.

Oh yeah. And then the company basically said, if you can't have nice things, we're taking them away.

Because so many of them were found in the river basically.

Can't be trusted.

But no city can be trusted.

They're always just strewn about.

Are they bobbing out of canals and in the middle of the road and just

well yeah that's it but they in Cardiff that we took it so far they said right yeah

you've ruined it for everyone but to me to me it's a kind of thing which completely works in Nordic countries.

Oh yeah. In Nordic countries it's like I'm just fixing the bike even though it belongs to the state

but I'm fixing it out of my own pocket. I will leave a nice loaf of rye bread here in the basket.

And I have personalized, I have a personalized message written in sesame seeds on top of the rye bread.

To all the, every name, all the names of the seed there's over

50 billion seeds all of the state sanctioned names all of the

al-Loth one oh love two Oh love one, two, and three, and Helga.

Actually that's German.

I reckon you could get a scandy Helga?

Oh yeah for sure.

Isn't it the case though that we, in the public imagination in Britain we think of Scandinavia

as this kind of wonderfully utopian place?

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