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Hadas Hershkovitz: On Loss: A Husband, Father, Soldier [Loss 3/3]

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18Forty

Judaism, Religion & Spirituality

4.7704 Ratings

🗓️ 29 July 2025

⏱️ 138 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of the 18Forty Podcast, we speak with Hadas Hershkovitz, whose husband, Yossi, was killed while serving on reserve duty in Gaza in 2023—about the Jewish People's loss of this beloved spouse, father, high-school principal, and soldier.

In the second year of the war, we’re grappling not only with the depth of our losses, but with how to make meaning of them as we continue to live in their aftermath. In this episode, we discuss:
  • How has the loss of Hadas’s husband sparked a renewed urgency in her dedication to uplifting the Jewish People?
  • How do we confront the anger and blame we may feel toward others in the wake of collective tragedy?
  • How can we cultivate the positive thoughts and spiritual clarity needed to uphold our moral responsibilities in difficult times?
Tune in for a heartfelt conversation on what it means to transform Torah into a living song sung by the Jewish People.

Interview begins at 30:30

References:

Psalms 23

Hasidic Tales of the Holocaust by Yaffa Eliach

Seinfeld: “The Bottle Deposit

“יש כאן יותר מזה" by Hanan Ben Ari 

Deuteronomy 31 

Arukh HaShulchan by Yechiel Michel Epstein

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0:00.0

Hi friends and welcome to the 1840 podcast where each month we explore different topic balancing modern

0:13.8

sensibilities with traditional sensitivities to give you new approaches to timeless Jewish ideas.

0:23.8

I'm your host, David Bischofkin, and this month,

0:31.4

we're continuing our exploration of loss. This podcast is part of a larger exploration of those big,

0:39.6

juicy Jewish ideas, so be sure to check out 1840.org, where you can also find videos, articles, recommended readings,

0:41.0

and weekly emails.

0:52.5

One of the most powerful passages in Psalms in the book of Tehilim is found in the 23rd chapter of Psalms where we read, and this is known both in the Jewish world and outside the

0:57.0

Jewish world, because it is something that I think many religions that adopt the New Testament

1:02.2

found this verse to just be incredibly powerful. It's in the 23rd chapter. It's read in traditional

1:08.4

Jewish communities very often the third meal of Shabbas.

1:12.0

And it says as follows, it says, gam, ki-e-e-le-begates-al-mav-as. Even though I walk, literally

1:19.3

begates al-Movas, in the shadow of death, lo-ir-rah-rah, I will not fear evil. I will not fear harm. I will not fear suffering. Even in that moment,

1:32.2

walking in the shadow of death, I will not be afraid. Why not? Because you are with me.

1:42.8

Shivtacha and your stickantacha, your stick, your staff and your rod, Heima Yenachamuni,

1:52.9

Provide me comfort.

1:55.1

And it's a powerful verse because who hasn't been in some situation, in some point in their lives,

2:02.5

of some period of brokenness, where they looked up,

2:06.3

and whether or not they believe in God or the traditional God,

2:10.1

you look up towards something and say, I need help.

2:14.3

And it's in those moments where there's some sense of comfort, there's some sense of relief,

2:22.9

there's some change in perspective from that knowledge that no matter where we are,

2:28.6

there is something transcendent with us.

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