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Pantsuit Politics

Habits of the Heart: Part Two

Pantsuit Politics

Lemonada Media

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4.54.9K Ratings

🗓️ 30 December 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

As our team takes time off for the holidays, we are sharing the conversations Sarah and Beth had this year about Habits of the Heart. This third episode originally aired in September for our premium members on Substack. Whether you’re also taking a well-deserved break, spending time with family, or just looking for something meaningful to listen to, we hope you’ll join us to revisit (or enjoy for the first time!) this thoughtful exploration from Sarah and Beth of this powerful, prescient book. In this episode, they get into the different types of citizens laid out in the book, Beth’s dreaded “swooping,” the role of religion in public life, and what it truly means to care. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Lemonada.

0:13.0

This is Maggie Penson.

0:14.9

You're listening to Pantsuit Politics.

0:17.4

Today we're sharing our part two discussion from Sarah and Beth's slow read of Habits of the Heart that we originally recorded back in September.

0:27.6

We hope that as you're wrapping up your year and holiday season, this series can help you think about the kind of citizen you want to be in 2006.

0:36.7

Habits of the Heart is fundamentally a book about the tension in America

0:41.3

between our individual freedom and civic commitments. And today's conversation digs into an idea

0:47.5

we've been considering on Pantsu Politics for years now, which is how to be a citizen. The authors of

0:53.8

Habits of the Heart

0:54.5

identified many ways that people approach their role

0:57.5

in communities and show up as citizens.

1:00.4

So we hope that today's conversation

1:02.3

gets your wheels turning on how you think about your citizenship

1:05.5

as we approach our nation's 250th birthday.

1:09.0

We'd love to hear your thoughts over on our episode page on Substack. And if you'd

1:14.2

like to join that conversation, we are having an end of your sale for our Pantsuit Politics

1:18.4

premium subscription. You can get two months free if you take advantage of our annual subscription

1:23.6

through December 31st. This is our best deal of the year. So don't miss out on that. Just visit

1:28.5

PantsuitPoliticshow.com slash subscribe to take advantage of that offer. Again, it ends on

1:35.8

December 31st. And now, Sarah and Beth discuss part two of Habits of the Heart.

1:43.3

The holidays bring so much joy, but also so much excess.

1:46.9

I've been trying to find small, practical ways to celebrate the season without all the waste.

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