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Pantsuit Politics

Habits of the Heart: Part One

Pantsuit Politics

Lemonada Media

News, News Commentary, Politics, Society & Culture

4.54.9K Ratings

🗓️ 26 December 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

As our team takes time off for the holidays, we are sharing the conversations Sarah and Beth had this year about Habits of the Heart. This second episode originally aired in May for our premium members on Substack. Whether you’re also taking a well-deserved break, spending time with family, or just looking for something meaningful to listen to, we hope you’ll join us to revisit (or enjoy for the first time!) this thoughtful exploration from Sarah and Beth of this powerful, prescient book. In this episode, they discuss the value of doing things in community, the social construct of marriage, the authors’ disdain for therapeutic culture, and the structures of friendship. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Lemonada.

0:02.7

This is Elise Knapp. You're listening to Pantsuit Politics.

0:17.2

This holiday season, as our team takes time off, we are sharing with you the conversations Sarah and Beth had this year about the book, Habits of the Heart.

0:24.7

We slow read this wonderful book from the 1980s about American society all throughout 2025 with our premium community on substack.

0:32.4

The episode you're about to hear covers part one of the book and originally ran at the beginning of May.

0:37.4

It includes

0:38.1

conversation about individualism, marriage, what it means to find yourself, and the values and

0:43.0

dangers of that pursuit. Plus, a few spicy takes, like Sarah's suggestion that we dust off

0:47.8

the idea of hell, you're going to enjoy this one. We hope that you like hearing these conversations

0:52.7

and that they inspire you to pick up the book, have some conversations like this of your own, and to join us on Substack in the New Year, where we have conversations like this every week.

1:01.6

We'll be sharing the final two installments of the Habits of the Heart Slow Read series next week, so make sure you join us for those.

1:07.4

Then we'll be back to regular programming on Tuesday, January 6th. Thank you so much

1:11.9

for listening. We hope you have the very best holiday season available to you.

1:16.6

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