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H.B.R. presents. Hello I'm Zee Mazaa and you're listening to the Exponential View podcast

Every week I'm in deep conversation with a brilliant mind dissecting our world and its

intricate dance with technology. I'm particularly excited about today's

conversation because it is with the man who's

influenced how I understood the interplay of technology, energy, and the political economy

that has helped create today's world.

Vatslav Smil is the distinguished professor emeritus in the faculty of environment at the University

of Manitoba in Winnipeg, Canada.

He's considered one of the leading thinkers on energy, its history, its development and its future.

Vaxlav's research spans environmental and population change, food production and nutrition,

as well as technical innovation,

all of which he's captured in more than 35 books and 500 papers.

Bill Gates is one of his biggest fans

admitting that he waits for the new Smill book

the way some people wait for the next Star Wars movie.

Vatslav's latest book, Growth from microorganisms to mega cities is a systematic exploration of growth

in societies and nature. Vatslav it's an honor to have you on this podcast.

Welcome.

Thank you.

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