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Gregory Copley reports that Chinese leader Xi Jinping's power has diminished, noting he is expected to step down as General Secretary at the upcoming fourth plenum, retaining only the powerless PRC presidency. Copley suggests the new leadership may reduce

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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🗓️ 1 October 2025

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Gregory Copley reports that Chinese leader Xi Jinping's power has diminished, noting he is expected to step down as General Secretary at the upcoming fourth plenum, retaining only the powerless PRC presidency. Copley suggests the new leadership may reduce global aggression because the country lacks money, resources, and solidarity for a global campaign, and faces massive domestic food and water crises. He also addresses Tony Blair's "surreal politic" role in the Gaza plan and the fragility of the clerical leadership in Iran.
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0:00.0

I'm John Batsch, who is my colleague, Gregory Copley, Defense and Foreign Affairs.

0:07.8

I report to you, Gregory, in a conversation with two young journalists, one in America, born in Tehran,

0:15.8

the other in America, because it was not safe for her to remain in Iran, have written a new book about the

0:22.7

last three years since the rising of the young people following the murder of a young Kurdish

0:28.5

woman by the morality police one day because they didn't like the way she had her hair arranged

0:33.8

in downtown Tehran. Since then, there have been repeated challenges all over the country to the morality police,

0:41.7

to the IRGC, especially to the besiege, and to the Ayatollah, so much so that I'm told by

0:48.2

Gen Z there and Gen Z here, having migrated away from the persecution, that Gen Z dislikes, distrust,

0:58.6

laughs at the Ayatollah and the IRGC. These are the young people up to about age 25, 28 now.

1:06.0

And that tells me, and I checked it again and again and again in this new book, talks about how they're

1:12.9

heedless and reckless in charging the police in the streets, how they don't fear arrest,

1:19.1

how they're extremely careful to be political all the time. Gen Z in Iran. What that means,

1:26.8

usually, if you're looking at history,

1:29.7

is that the bosses, the dictators, the Ayatollah, the president, the Majlis, all of that,

1:37.3

they've lost the future.

1:39.1

Is that a fair interpretation of what I'm hearing, Gregory?

1:42.8

Yes, it is.

1:43.7

And it does, in fact, mirror some of the crisis which occurred in 1978, 79 when I was

1:49.1

there as advisor to the Shah, who unfortunately was reluctant to, if you like, crack down

1:57.2

on the situation at that time because he didn't want to take away the future,

2:02.3

if you like, from the young people.

2:04.2

But today, the Gen Z and so on and the millennials are at the forefront of the change.

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