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going to kind of push him on is what are the universal things about the human experience that coalesce with everything that we know to be true about science, about the mystical experience, about the transcendental experience. What is it that makes us human? What is it that allows us to reach beyond our humanness and what are the dangers of a world in which we think we can perfect the human experience, which Greg will argue is a denial of our unique connection to something divine. We talk specifically that most people don't really understand or know how to access the potential of being human, that we can control brain states. We can increase our ability to heal. We can find love. We can really expand the realm of what we perceive as possible here in the physical form. We also get metaphysical and talk about simulation theory and what it even means to explore energies outside of our bodies, including the access to the field and infinite possibilities of information. We'll touch on the human brain versus AI. We'll talk about the energy that exists all around us. Talk about the intersection between theoretical physics and conversations about divinity and consciousness. We're also going to talk about the tactics that are used to make us believe information that in many cases doesn't really serve us. And it keeps us divided. And it keeps us divided. Greg describes that humanity is standing out of precipice. There is a major inflection point coming as soon as 2030, where there are measures happening, organizations organizing to implant technology and change the very fabric of what it means to be human and have a human experience here on earth. We're especially excited that Greg is here in person. Break it down. I think a good place for us to start and I want to get to specifics of the book, but I think it would be helpful for people to hear what's your mission, like what is your perspective that you sort of enter all of the work that you do from? You know, my mission and my perspectives to love this world, love this world and the people this world in the peace, into the peace that I know is possible. I have, it's more than just an interest. I think probably because of my heritage. I'm a Cherokee blood and Hebrew blood. Both traditions have known a lot of war and a lot of suffering. I think a lot of my viewers know that I was working in the corporations in the defense industry during the Cold War years. It was a really frightening time in the history of our world when the superpowers came like this close to doing the unthinkable. And there's no space there because they actually pushed the button twice to release nuclear weapons on civilian populations and twice the tech failed for mysterious reasons. It's a whole conversation around that. But I always felt if we know where to look into the past, Where to look into the past and if we know how to look at what those who have come before us, if left for us, that we would find the way to perhaps end the hurt in the suffering, in the atrocities in our lifetime, that we all have seen in the 20th and now it's repeating in the 21st century. And my passion has been to view our past, and not simply as an ancient and obsolete way of thinking of things, which is what I was taught as a scientist. I was taught, you know, that's back then, we're modern people now. And what I tend to see is a continuity. Is the stuff old, yes, are the text and the traditions old, yes, are the obsolete, absolutely not. And if we can begin to view that continuity, we give ourselves a framework to build the kind of peace. And honestly, I think the only way it's going to happen is we've got to think differently about ourselves. And the better we know ourselves, I think the better choices we make, unless we fear one another, unless we fear change in the world. So yes, it's about the world and really it all comes down to us. It's beautiful. That's a beautiful framework. And I think one that most of our viewers would absolutely support and get behind. I guess I'd love for you to start. I think we should just dive right in. Where does love fit into the philosophy that you sort of approach all aspects of science, history, the future? What is love? For me to talk about that, let's talk about this book, and I think it will come out pretty clearly. Okay. I can start where I was gonna start. All right. The book goes through 70 truths, and they're woven into different aspects of this story. I think we'll go chronologically. So the first one I wanna talk about, by the year 2030, we will either have awakened to the truth of our untapped human potential, or we will be locked into a society of hybrid humans that has engineered away our powers of creativity, emotion, empathy, and intuition. This is just in the introduction. I just want everybody to know. This is kind of the framework that you're setting. Tell us what you understand based on the current trends of thinking. What are we headed towards? Well, I want to say, first of all, this book. I wrote this book before I gave it to the publisher because we have had issues in the past of publishers pushing back on the content. And I felt that what we're going to talk about here is so vital. It's more than interesting. Yeah, it's fascinating, but it's vital to our existence. And it begins with two parallel themes in the books. Let me address that and then we'll go to this directly. There's two parallel themes in the book. One is that there's a concerted effort in our world right now to replace our humanness with technology. And that's no surprise. I mean, we all see that from AI in our lives to computer chips in the brain chemicals in the blood RFID chips under the skin nanobots moving through the circulatory and the respiratory systems and on and on, the irony is that the technology that we're being asked to accept into our bodies, with the best science in the modern world is now showing us, is that our own natural biology not only meets, but in many cases, it exceeds the capacity of the very technology we're being asked to replace ourselves with. And a lot of people don't know that. And that's the second theme of the book, awakening to the potential of who we are, the catalyst for that awakening is what we would call love. Love means different things to different people. And in the book, the theme of the book, and let me, this is a to, this is a long answer with short question, that I want to lay this out and then we can tie into everything that you're going to go through with those, those questions. There's a theme in the book that a lot of people are uncomfortable with. And the word is divinity, because for many people, they link divinity with religion. And you know, I can see where that would happen. There are schools of divinity that do just that and they're good schools. The contemporary definition of divinity, and this is fascinating. It simply says divinity is our ability to transcend perceived limitations. So transcend means become more than perceived. Most of us are living limits in our lives, they're not even real. We are indoctrinated to accept those limits through academia, through our family, our friends, our community, our heritage, our religion, obsolete science, I mean, all kinds of places. But they're not even real. So divinity in its truest sense is our ability to be the best version of ourselves. And that's where this book is so fascinating to me because there is a concerted effort to keep us from doing that, to veil our divinity. Let me just give a couple of examples of we think of divinity. Many people think it's a peripheral experience. It's actually foundational. Divinity is our ability to imagine. That is an expression of human divinity, creativity, innovation, empathy, sympathy, compassion, to build it to love. I was gonna say, love. Without fear, many of us love and we've been hurt in our love. And so when we do love, what we do is we love just enough, and we always hold something back because we're afraid of being vulnerable and having that hurt again, forgiveness. Many people forgive and then they look around and see who saw them do the forgiving because they want something to come back. Divinity is loving without fear, forgiveness, with unconditional forgiveness. The ability to heal our own bodies. That is an expression of divinity. So what we find is divinity is actually foundational in our lives. It's not this peripheral thing. It's us being the best version of ourselves. The move to replace us with technology veils our ability to be the best version of ourselves. It actually veils our divinity. And we can talk about the science that shows us how that works. So love, the question is, do we love ourselves enough to be the best version of ourselves? Do we love ourselves enough to allow our divinity, which I personally believe is our destiny as individuals and as a species. It's our destiny to unlock these extraordinary potentials. It we're only beginning to understand. This episode is sponsored by Wondering Jews and Open Door Media Brand. If you've ever found yourself feeling like you have more questions than answers, you're in good company. The Jewish people have been like that for thousands of years. 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