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Hi everybody. Welcome to Shift, a podcast about mobility. I'm Pete Bigelow, your host.

Self-driving vehicles have first and foremost called San Francisco home,

but there's another place where robot taxis are becoming common.

Waymo, Cruise, Volkswagen have to varying degrees all set up shop in Austin, Texas. And on the trucking side of

autonomy, companies like Aurora, Kodiak robotics, and Gattuck are testing and

preparing for commercial operations in Texas.

Dallas is a hub that interstate's 2030-35-45 run-through.

And a little further south, I-10 crosses the state and is the key freight corridor that runs coast to coast across the southern United States.

Texas is the key market for traditional automakers selling profitable pickup trucks, and it's the place where the

power grid failed during a fierce winter storm that posed stark challenges for EV owners.

You see where I'm going with all this. The Lone Star State is at the heart of so many

transportation technology advances. And here to help sort through how that potential is being tested and harnessed at the ground level is

Greg Winfrey. Greg is the director of the Texas A&M Transportation Institute. He also serves on the U.S. Department of Transportation's Advisory Committee on Transportation Equity,

and he's a member of the National GPS Advisory Board.

We're going to talk about the potential and pain points for all of the above today. Let's get to it. I'm pleased to bring you this conversation with Greg Winfrey.

Greg, thanks for making the time to do the podcast today and welcome back to the shift

podcast. Thanks so much Pete. Always a great pleasure. I enjoy the relationship

we built over the years. Likewise, and I appreciated the chance to be on the Thinking Transportation

podcast last year and if I do kind of take this back, it is crazy how much time

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