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Vibe Check

Green Is a Bridge Too Far featuring Chase Strangio and Imara Jones

Vibe Check

SiriusXM

Society & Culture

4.91.8K Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of Vibe Check, Saeed and Zach are joined by trans rights activists, Chase Strangio and Imara Jones, to talk all about Wicked - and why the story has such a significant cultural impact. Plus, they share their picks for “the vibes are on, the vibes are off”. ------------------------------------------------------ Saeed’s Poem of the Week: “Her Kind” by Anne Sexton

Transcript

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0:00.0

Girl.

0:04.5

Girl.

0:09.1

We're laughing so much, you'll know at the end of this episode while we're laughing so much.

0:13.0

Saeed is currently shook about something we're going to withhold for 45 minutes.

0:18.0

I am shaken to my core.

0:20.3

Yeah.

0:20.9

Excited for you, listeners.

0:23.3

Some of y'all are going to have to Google.

0:24.8

It's okay.

0:25.5

It's okay.

0:26.2

Some of you're going to have to Google to understand.

0:29.8

But I am Saeed Jones, and I'm shook.

0:34.1

And I'm Zach's effort, and I'm holding space in honor of Wicked and Zayyed Jones

0:38.6

learning new information today, not even about Wicked, but about something else that you'll find

0:42.0

out about later, that you're also going to maybe be shook over because it is hilarious.

0:47.2

But anyway, until then, you're listening to Vibe Check. Our conversation when Chase and Amara, like, that was a dream come true.

1:02.8

I'm so excited for y'all to get to hear our conversation.

1:06.3

But where it ends.

1:08.1

It's a surprise.

1:09.3

It's a surprise.

1:10.6

I felt like Golinda being like, you're green. Like, girl, what? You're green. What? Brooke. Stop the music. Wow. Okay, listeners, I'm sure you were like, what is going on? What's happening? Let me tell you what's happening. So today, we are doing an entire episode, almost an entire episode, all about Wicked. Don't turn us off yet because you're going I want to stay around even if you don't like the movie. Today we're joined by Chase Strangio from the ACLU, who you already know from past episodes, and also a dear friend of ours, Amar Jones, who was just named one of times 100 most influential people living, and she has her own incredible podcast called Trans-Sash, which is a trans-focused podcast. She's also joining us. And typically when these two folks join us, we're talking about, you know, legislation, the Supreme Court, or something really horrible. Today we're talking about culture. We're talking about wicked and how wicked can tell us a lot about the world around us.

2:01.8

And it was a joy, wasn't it, Zaid?

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