That was a mind-blowing realization as well. Like, we're in amongst the greatest gold rush in human history.

You're trying to use an old system type of model to model a new system that we've never seen before.

You can't look at this new system through the lens of the old system.

The amount of treasury companies that are coming online are exponential.

We have the United States now coming on and talking about it.

China, Russia, we've never in history seen anything with the level of scarcity that we've seen with

Bitcoin. All your models are destroyed. There's 13 million wallets that have one million

SaaS. It's more rare to own $1,200 worth of Bitcoin today than to be a millionaire.

If we start smashing and people start borrowing against their Bitcoin,

that's going to be another thing where people are going to get hurt.

100%.

What do you think about the potential for Bitcoin being co-opted or attacks on Bitcoin?

I mean, my biggest fear is, so that's a huge centralization risk. It would be a huge

problem. Boom. There we go. Brandon, pumped to have you here. I think the first time I met you was in Las Vegas.

Was that right? I think so. I think we've been maybe met in passing at other conferences,

but I think that first time we kind of had a conversation was in Vegas. Yeah, it could be social

overload, dude, meeting all these people. It's like, all this group of this large community of all these people with like aligned values. And it's so exciting. And anyways, yeah, we had a couple good conversations in Vegas. And so glad you're here, man. Yeah, man. Thanks for having me. I'm excited. It's awesome. So we did a little digging on you and you got much more of an interesting background than I would have imagined.

Yeah, I'm a wild man.

So tell me about that.

What was your early work life like, which that's my understanding that led you into Bitcoin?

Yeah.

Yeah. So tell us about Bitcoin. Yeah. Yeah.

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