Hello we are doing something very special. This is a three episode week. On Wednesday

and Friday of this week we are bringing you two brand new shows as usual, both of which feature Katie from Money with

Katie. Today we're going to air a bonus third show. We're actually going to do this to kick off the week and this is a replay of an episode that we originally aired just over a year ago. This episode originally aired August 9,

2023 and it's an interview with Stanford Psychology Professor Jamil Zaki, he is the director of the Stanford Social

Neuroscience Lab. He shares his research and findings about the science of

empathy and how we can apply this to improving our relationships with colleagues

clients customers co-founders empathy clearly matters a lot in business and in

investing but beyond that there's a lot in business and investing.

But beyond that, as we enter the fall of 2024,

as we enter the next couple of months of some passionate discussions that we are having,

I thought it would be a particularly good time to hear the director of Stanford Social Neuroscience Laboratory talk about

the science of emotional intelligence. So enjoy today's special bonus replay

as we deep dive into the science of empathy.

You know, in the world of money and investing, it can be easy to be dogmatic to the point of tribal about

your beliefs. Either you're part of the fire movement, financial independence retire

early, either you're part of it or you hate it you hate it.

Right? That's an actual quote famously stated by Susie Orman on this show.

And likewise, either you embrace credit cards as a route to getting airline rewards and travel hacking or

you follow the Dave Ramsey camp and believe that you shouldn't touch them because if you play with snakes you might get bit.

People have very fervent beliefs about money and money is an emotionally charged topic.

This can sometimes sew the seeds of discord or division.

And if this happens when we're arguing about personal finance philosophy,

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