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Grave Concerns: Episode 3 'Broken Hearted Parents'

REAL

Naomi Channell

Society & Culture, News, Documentary, True Crime

4.8725 Ratings

🗓️ 28 January 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

TRIGGER WARNING: This episode centres around the experiences of grieving parents and baby-loss.


In the summer of 2025, the BBC published a news story that broke the hearts of parents around the country. Two families had discovered the bodies of their babies, in the home of a funeral director.


These parents have now bravely spoken out to try to help change regulations in the UK and question why anyone, without education or training, can open a funeral home.


We also look back at a case that broke in 2012, which impacted hundreds of parents, who learnt the truth about where their babies ashes were and what was done to ensure this couldn't happen again in Scotland.


This is Grave Concerns.


If you'd like to support the show, please see the link to my Patreon here, thank you:

https://patreon.com/REALtruecrimepodcast


If you need support, please see the organisations below who can help you:


England and Wales - https://www.victimsupport.org.uk/


Scotland - https://victimsupport.scot/


Ireland - https://www.crimevictimshelpline.ie/


Northern Ireland - https://www.victimsupportni.com/


Australia - https://victimsservices.justice.nsw.gov.au/


New Zealand - https://www.victimsupport.org.nz/


America - https://www.fbi.gov/how-we-can-help-you/victim-services


Canada - https://www.canada.ca/en/office-federal-ombudsperson-victims-crime/services-services.html


Baby Loss Support


UK - www.heldinourhearts.org.uk (Nicola's Charity)


UK - https://www.sands.org.uk/


Canada - https://www.babysbreathcanada.ca


Ireland - https://feileacain.ie/


Australia - https://www.sands.org.au/


USA - https://starlegacyfoundation.org


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Warning, this is a true crime podcast and is not suitable for all audiences. Please use discretion.

0:07.8

This episode contains references to baby loss. Please take extra care whilst listening.

0:15.2

Losing a child is one of the most traumatising and life-altering things a person can go through. And after speaking

0:22.8

to several people who have sadly lost their child, it became very clear that handing their

0:29.8

child's body over to a funeral director was one of the most difficult things they had to do.

0:36.6

In 2025, the UK woke up to the headlines that came from a real-life nightmare.

0:43.2

A funeral director in the north of England was keeping the bodies of babies inside her home.

0:49.7

But how did this happen?

0:51.6

And what are the authorities saying about this?

1:53.5

Again, this episode may be triggering for some people, but I promise this story will be handled with care. I'm Naomi Channel, and this is episode three of grave concerns.... This is a good. This case is upsetting, but it's also important to highlight when looking at how to improve the funeral services and protect people during their most vulnerable moments.

1:59.6

Two women at the centre of this case have bravely shared their stories with the media

2:04.2

in the hope of creating meaningful change.

2:08.6

On the 29th of March 2017, Amy Upton delivered her daughter, Flory May, by C-section.

2:21.0

Tragically, Baby Flurry was still born at 29 weeks. The circumstances around her pregnancy were complex and complicated and Amy wrote long

2:28.8

social media posts sharing her story. She said she had been in a relationship that had involved domestic violence,

2:37.5

including an assault while she was pregnant.

2:40.9

She also had a condition called Stage 4 Placenta Previa.

2:45.3

This is where the placenta covers the entrance to the cervix,

2:48.6

making a vaginal birth impossible.

2:51.7

It's a serious condition that needs to be monitored by doctors.

2:56.3

She also had stage four placenta accreta, which can be dangerous for the mother.

3:02.4

The placenta attaches deeply to the uterus wall, and often the placenta doesn't detach itself fully after birth,

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