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My name is Allison Hindle and I commission audio drama and fiction for the BBC.

It's a great privilege because I get to unearth stories people love.

You should see the books and scripts covering my floor,

from new talent and established writers as well as classics.

The BBC has such a rich history of making great audio drama,

we're still the largest producer in the world,

and the popularity of podcasts means we can share what we do with even more people.

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You're listening to the TMS Podcast from BBC Radio 5 Live.

Hello, welcome to this special episode of the Test Match Special Podcast with me Steve Crossman as we celebrate

the life and career of Graham Thore following his death last week at the age of 55. 6,744 runs in 100 tests, 2,380 runs in 82 one day

internationals. He played at two World Cups and later became a batting coach for England's

test and Whiteball teams. His family have announced that he'd been suffering from depression and anxiety and that he'd

taken his own life. They've been speaking in an interview in the Times with the

former England captain Mike Atherton. Depression is an illness.

And his family have spoken really bravely about it in that piece,

making the crucial point amongst many other crucial points

that there should be no stigma around it.

As they say, it's okay not to be okay. With us we have got

Graham Thupp's former teammates, Phil Tuffnell and Michael Carberry and

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