Before you listen to this BBC podcast I'd like to tell you about something else you might enjoy.

My name is Allison Hindle and I commission audio drama and fiction for the BBC.

It's a great privilege because I get to unearth stories people love.

You should see the books and scripts covering my floor,

from new talent and established writers as well as classics.

The BBC has such a rich history of making great audio drama,

we're still the largest producer in the world,

and the popularity of podcasts means we can share what we do with even more people.

So if you like to lose yourself in a gripping audio drama or book, find your next listen on BBC Sounds.

BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts.

Hi everyone, we've got to let you know that we do sometimes swear on this podcast.

But don't let that put you off because Henry beeps them out, but we might sometimes say,

sha-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-ach, shi-schish kebab, flippinac. That's a sweat-word. That's a swift word. That's a word.

Cross, I'm doing round the wicked.

Oh, that's...

Boulder, laboring up all alone, Litchfield.

I think it's the Wobble Ball, and it just nips back, it jags back, it's the nip-backer.

That is a beauty from Kate Cross, an absolute seed.

That is a beautiful cross.

So Crossy says 3-2 1 we both press record at the same time she's done it here.

Hello welcome to no balls a great v great podcast with me, Alex Hartley and you, Kate Cross.

And I'll fill in the context, because no Hartley,

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