This is CBS High on the World. I'm John Bachelors. They're a Republican debate.

Two days later, I welcome Bill Whalen of the Hoover Institution, the host of Goodfellows,

a YouTube broadcast every other week on Wednesday or Thursday with his colleagues at the Hoover

Institution. But now we turn to the memory of the Milwaukee debate of the Republican candidates

for the nomination for the presidency. Bill, a very good evening to you.

I've relied on your intuition about the Republican Party for decades. That's how long

Bill and I have been together. So I never come to a conclusion before I talk to you.

A bounty of governors up there. So let us speak to, in general, governors and the presidency.

My list includes Mr. Christie, Mr. DeSantis, Ms. Haley, Mr. Pence, former governor,

as well as vice president, Mr. Bergham, Mr. Hutchinson, all the governors.

Do they have a strength for the Republican Party or for either party bill when it comes to the presidency?

Good evening, too. Good evening, John. And this week is my 24th year at the Hoover Institution,

John. And I think I spent about 22 of those conversing with you because we first met right after 9-11.

So it's an honor to know you all these years, John.

Same for you, Bill. Thank you.

Thank you. So governors. So historically, Republicans love them some governors.

Ronald Reagan, of course, a former governor. He gets a nomination in 1980, George W. Bush, a sitting governor in 2000.

Mitt Romney, a former governor in 2012. So if there are governors or attractive Republicans like executives and also John,

it's an easy message I'll do for America, but I do for my state. But here's the challenge.

John, types of change in the Republican Party. And it's very hard for governors to run simply that way.

If you watch that debate, you may have noticed one thing that stood out, absent Donald Trump's presence.

There were still Donald Trump's influence in this regard, the anti-establishment tone in that debate.

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