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Leading Saints Podcast

Good, Better, Best of the Addiction Recovery Program | An Interview with Brad Barber

Leading Saints Podcast

Leading Saints

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.91.2K Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2019

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

"It is not enough that something is good. Other choices are better, and still others are best." —Dallin H. Oaks Brad Barber co-hosts The Next Step Podcast, which is based around the Church's Addiction Recovery Program and addiction in general. He grew up in the Church in southern California, served a mission, and attended Brigham Young University. Brad has seen many friends caught in addiction and became involved with ARP after hearing podcast co-host Jay's testimony of the program and wondering why there weren't ARP addiction meetings in his area. Highlights 6:45 How Brad got involved with ARP and started The Next Step Podcast 12:00 Setting up the ARP program is supposed to start with the stake 12:20 A facilitator who is an addict in recovery should be leading the meetings 12:50 Leaders who have not been through the process do not know what addicts have gone through and addicts can tell 13:30 A sponsor is a person who is in sobriety from addiction 14:55 At first, addicts categorize themselves against each other until they realize everyone's struggles are the same, but anyone who has experienced addiction can facilitate for others experiencing different types of addiction 15:45 Quote from the intro of the ARP manual (in LDS Tools) about what addiction is 17:00 Some statistics about addictions that go beyond alcohol, drugs, and pornography 18:10 "Atonement Realization Program" because the 12 Steps walk you through the Atonement to improve yourself 18:40 Elder Oaks' talk, "Good, Better, Best": Have people been lifted, encouraged, and changed? 20:15 A 12-Step meeting is different than counseling, but ARP is organized under LDS Family Services 20:35 Meetings usually start from the bottom up, where a family member starts a group after discovering the program exists 21:05 The 12 Steps were invented by the founders of Alcoholics Anonymous in the 1930's 21:40 Good: There are ARP meetings in the stake, and ward leaders are aware of them 22:15 Group leaders are generally not addicts in recovery, and need to be a person who has no judgment toward others 23:50 Brad's advice to group leaders: Don't show up dressed like a missionary or pretend to be something you are not 24:45 Better: Passionate group leaders who coordinate with other group leaders 25:25 Invite leaders to go to a meeting and challenge them to not be afraid of what other people might think 27:00 Some do's and don'ts about attending a meeting: Introduce yourself by first name only Resist the urge to share your testimony 29:50 Better: Have meetings with a varying mix of people at stages of sobriety to help support the participants 30:25 It's the responsibility of group leaders to find those addicts in recovery and get them to come 30:55 Bishops have a responsibility to help identify those people and connect them to ARP 32:35 It's the purpose of sponsors to follow-up and that's how to maintain sobriety 33:30 Spouses also need to understand that sobriety isn't the end 34:20 Better: Have your bishops attend ARP meetings 35:25 Treat the ARP meetings the same as self-reliance meetings and attend a full 12-week course to really understand the power of these steps 36:30 In ARP, everyone shares their experience instead of listening to an "expert" 37:00 Story: everyone can benefit from learning the 12 Steps 37:50 Better: Persons who have done the 12 Steps are now supporting others 38:05 "What gets you sober won't keep you sober" 39:50 Best: You have facilitators who have broken anonymity 41:20 Leaders should talk to addicts in recovery and find those who are willing to break anonymity and share 42:00 Fear of breaking anonymity: what happens is the opposite of the fears of judgment 42:40 Best: Have group leaders who share and encourage others to attend 44:30 Best: Spouses and others attending the general ARP meetings 44:45 If you can only have one meeting, have a general ARP meeting 46:00 Spouses attending the meetings is powerful

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How's Ministries going in your ward? Good or bad, I think we can help you improve it.

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If you text the word lead to 4-7-47, you'll receive a link to our free PDF called Five Steps

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in Getting Your Word Ministries.

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Again, text the word lead to 4-7-47 to get the free PDF or visit Leaning Saints.

0:21.0

Or, at Leaning Saints.org slash PDF.

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The Leaning Saints Podcast.

0:26.1

Podcast, podcast, podcast, podcast.

0:27.1

Hey, this is Kurt Frankham, the host of the Leaning Saints

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podcast.

0:30.3

I welcome you back to another episode,

0:32.0

and maybe this is your first leading Saints

0:34.3

podcast for which I welcome you this is a podcast that is a part of a nonprofit called

0:40.4

leading Saints as well and we are dedicated to helping lay leaders within the church be better prepared to lead and the podcast is one of those ways that we do that

0:49.3

Creating conversations, dialogue, information that you can benefit from and share with others that will help you be better prepared to lead in these tough complicated situations that we find ourselves in or just to be a more dynamic leader to have

1:04.2

better results and see your awards succeed in the way that you would like to see

1:07.8

it succeed. So I welcome you 300 plus episodes, take a gander and they'll find a lot of good stuff in this resource.

1:16.8

Now I want to quickly mention, I've mentioned in the, I think the last podcast about the questioning Saints virtual summit.

1:24.0

You guys, this is gonna be so epic,

1:26.6

and I don't use that word lightly.

1:28.6

I'm putting it together, I've decided to push it off just a few weeks,

1:32.4

before I was trying to rush and get it all done and up before

1:36.2

general conference but then I said to myself why am I forcing this when I can make it an even better

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