Hello, this is Bob. As you may already know, I had throat surgery at the very end of June.

So this is week three of recovery, and I'm feeling pretty good, but I won't tape any new podcasts until next week when I tape one with Paul Bloom on Tuesday, July 22nd. And toward the end of that conversation,

I'll probably be talking a little about my throat, which has always been a subject of great

fascination to me, and about why I had surgery and so on. Meanwhile, this week is another

golden oldies week. Today we have a conversation from 2015 with the famously creative

physicist Lee Smollin. It's a timeless conversation about time, like what is time? What is time in a

fundamental sense, the way a physicist might think about it? This is a question that I find fascinating

in its own right. Plus, it turns out to have implications for other fundamental issues like

free will and determinism and so on. Anyway, I really loved this conversation with Lee, and I hope

you do too. I also hope you'll consider taking this opportunity to go to the Apple podcast site or the Apple podcast

app of your choice and give the non-zero podcast a rating and or review, especially if you are

feeling favorably inclined toward the podcast. This kind of support really matters. It helps us build an audience in what they accurately call a very challenging media

end time.

And I really appreciate.

Thanks.

Hi, Lee.

Hi, Bob.

How you doing?

I'm great.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Well, you're speaking, as a Canadian might speak. You're in Canada, right? Where it is Thanksgiving. It is Thanksgiving. And I am a dual citizen. So I enjoy both citizenship and both Thanksgiving. Well, that is incentive enough to become a dual citizen, two Thanksgivings.

So let me introduce us.

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