Just last week one of our kids was over and we were talking and I looked at my wife and she was blitched. I mean she was just ready for bed so she said I'm going to go get ready for bed and I said, okay.

And I kept talking with that child.

And when I finally got into the bedroom,

Dina was like head under the covers, lights out,

she was snoring.

She was totally out.

It was like this. I like this I mean so fast and I knew it had been a long day a long week a long month and there are times when as a parent you are just totally shot you're gone you're exhausted

How do you show grace in those moments? I mean I I was ready to talk to her but she was totally asleep

Well I'm John Fuller joined by Dr. Danny who heads up our parenting team and Danny this is with an adult child

who's visiting not little kids. Parenting is just exhausting the whole way through. I mean, was there a season where

you or Heather really struggled with just staying awake?

From beginning to hunt, John.

We're not off here and there.

I still remember the most tired I felt

was when we first had my son Alex.

He was the first child.

It was that first weekend.

My wife had had a difficult delivery.

And I literally fell asleep in the hallway.

I just laid down and I said, I'm just going to lay here for just a minute and I was just passed out in the hallway.

My wife said, are you okay?

And I said, I'm so tired. We were both exhausted and that's when I've mentioned my in-laws and, well actually my mother-in-law and my mom

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