Hello and welcome to another episode of iWay with Jameela Jamel, a podcast against shame.

I hope you're well. I'm good actually. After today's conversation, I'm feeling quite hyped.

I really hope that that's the same impact it's going to have on you. Now we've had some really

hard episodes in the last month or so, amazing episodes with incredible people, but you know,

things that talk about the systemic oppression that women face and this certainly does come up

in today's episode, of course. But I would say the overall vibe that you can expect is

feeling fucking invincible, feeling like you can do anything. Our guest today is

Jeannie Isheria, who is an extraordinary stand-up comic. I've looked up to her my entire life and

she has had such an amazing story, not only in her life, but also in her career. And so we kind of

mostly focus on the fact that she does not give a fuck. She backs herself in a way that I've

almost never seen anyone do so. And I love it so much and it's so empowering and she doesn't

believe in the rules around colour and she doesn't believe in the rules around women and she doesn't

believe in the rules around age. She is in her 50s and is now breaking through glass ceilings

that one would never imagine a woman over the age of 21 would be able to do. She's an example

to all of us as to when it comes to self-respect, self-belief, perseverance and making your own rules

in life. She has paved such an incredible path for other women that come after her, especially

women of colour. We really do get into the limitations that she's faced, but most of all,

how she has overcome them with such spectacular glory. And so I would like to offer you a trigger

warning that there are mentions of racism in this, but because of course that is something that she

has faced as a dark-skinned black woman, especially in the 90s and naughties coming up in England

for fuck's sake. We've got to fall in love with her. Her confidence is sort of breath of fresh air and

I just left with my chest all puffed up feeling so excited for you to hear it. So message me,

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