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Today, we bring our series on Gibson versus Fender to a close.

We followed the fathers of modern electric guitar through decades of groundbreaking innovation.

And even though they both hit some bad notes over the years, Gibson and Fender are still here today,

trying to court new generations of guitar players and keep the old ones.

But music has changed a lot since legendary rockers like Led Zeppelin and the Rolling Stones dominated the airwaves.

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