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🗓️ 20 November 2023
⏱️ 54 minutes
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0:33 Tom’s new book, Getting Russia Right 2:13 Does Putin want to take more territory before talking peace? 12:35 Putin’s "messianic" transformation 22:41 America’s failed effort to Americanize Russia 32:46 Does the US focus too much on other nations’ internal affairs? 41:10 The 2004 event that sunk US-Russia relations 49:16 Why Tom supports a diplomatic reset
Robert Wright (Bloggingheads.tv, The Evolution of God, Nonzero, Why Buddhism Is True) and Thomas Graham (Council on Foreign Relations, Getting Russia Right). Recorded November 09, 2023.
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0:00.0 | You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero Podcast. |
0:33.7 | Hi, Tom. |
0:35.2 | Hi, Bob. |
0:36.2 | How you doing? |
0:37.4 | I am doing fine, and you? |
0:39.3 | I couldn't be better. |
0:42.7 | I mean, I kid, but I'm very happy to be talking to you. |
0:46.2 | Let me introduce this time. |
0:47.8 | Robert Wright, publisher in Nanzeraner Newsletter. |
0:50.2 | This is a non-zero podcast. |
0:51.5 | You're Thomas Graham, Distinguished fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations. |
0:55.8 | You also have a position at Yale University. And most important for today's purposes, |
1:01.2 | your author of a book called Getting Russia Right, which we're going to talk about. |
1:08.4 | You've been thinking about Russia for a long time. a lot of it during your career in public service |
1:12.9 | you're on you're on the national security council during the george w bush administration |
1:17.9 | before that you had a couple of stints in moscow was a foreign service officer in uh both the |
1:25.5 | late so soviet and early post-Soviet periods, I guess. |
1:31.2 | So you were there in the 90s. |
1:33.3 | And also in the 90s, you served in the State Department. |
1:37.9 | And so on the policy planning staff, and I think you had another position there. |
1:42.9 | So this is kind of |
1:44.8 | your life's work, in a sense, what we're about to talk about, right? |
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