China’s Overreach, America’s Overreaction (Robert Wright & Susan Shirk)

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🗓️ 16 November 2023

⏱️ 53 minutes

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1:51 Susan’s new book, Overreach: How China Derailed Its Peaceful Rise 7:28 China’s turn to more assertive policies in 2007 15:30 The well-intentioned reform that produced big authoritarian consequences 25:20 How public opinion influences autocratic leaders 31:53 Xi Jinping’s purge of suspect officials 41:52 Does Beijing feel threatened by America? 48:20 Heading to Overtime

Robert Wright (Bloggingheads.tv, The Evolution of God, Nonzero, Why Buddhism Is True) and Susan Shirk (University of California San Diego, Overreach). Recorded October 23, 2023.

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0:00.0	You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero Podcast.
0:33.6	Hi, Susan. How are you?
0:36.3	That's far. Thank you.
0:41.1	Good. Let me introduce us. I'm Robert Wright, Robert Wright.
0:47.1	Publisher, The Non-Zero Newsletter on Substack. This is the Non-Zero podcast, and you're Susan Shirk,
0:57.4	a professor at UC San Diego, I believe, where you are chair of a center that studies China, which you also founded. What's the name of the 21st century China Center? Is that it?
1:02.1	That's right. I'm the founding chair, but I am no longer the chair. I see. You're the founding chair.
1:11.2	I'm the chair, Meredithis.
1:15.8	I call it that.
1:17.8	And my colleague, Victor Scher, is now the chair.
1:21.9	So you're your figurehead.
1:26.3	Your ceremonial.
1:31.5	Not quite. Not quite, okay. But one person joked about it and said the Chinese Communist Party has not solved the peaceful
1:40.1	succession problem, but 21st century China Center has.
1:45.1	And you're willing to serve as their role model. Should Xi Jinping ask you, you stand ready to guide him.
1:51.9	So you've got a book out that's pretty new, I think less than a year old, called Overreach,
1:58.0	how China derailed its peaceful rise, published by Oxford University Press.
2:03.5	And we want to talk about that.
2:06.3	Now, is it fair to say that the book is, among other things, your answer to the question of
2:13.7	how did we wind up in what seems like a Cold war with China, even though 10, even five years
2:20.4	ago, it didn't seem so much like a cold war. And for that matter, how did we wind up closer to a
2:24.9	hot war with China over Taiwan than it seems like we were five or 10 years ago? Is that a fair way
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