Well done. You've sorted through the embarrassment of riches that is the modern podcast landscape

and found me Rob Briden on my podcast. In this series of Briden and I talk to among

others Harry Hill, Ben Elton, Charlotte Church, Steve Cougan and Dame Harriet Walter.

And that's just a few. We tend to chat for about 45 minutes to an hour never longer.

It's terrific conversation, reminiscent where appropriate and exchange of anecdotes.

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Hey guys, I'm literally phoning in my introduction to this week's podcast because I can't make

it to the studio because I'm in a cappuco, not on vacation doing a story for nightline

which will air I think in the next few weeks actually quite an incredible story.

Anyway, that's not what you came here for. We've got a great guest this week who has

some really fascinating theories about the overlap between attachment theory which is

a psychological idea and meditation. George Haas is his name.

Before we get to him, I just want to do a few items of business. I can't take calls

this week because I'm not in the studio. But I do want to mention one thing, this is kind

of like a PSA for a previous guest. If you haven't heard her before, I recommend you

go back and listen to her episode, Jessica Mori. She goes by Jess. So Jess Mori, she runs

a program called IDME, sometimes known as inward bound mindfulness education. Outward

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