Well done. You've sorted through the embarrassment of riches that is the modern podcast landscape

and found me Rob Briden on my podcast. In this series of Briden and I talk to among

others Harry Hill, Ben Elton, Charlotte Church, Steve Cougan and Dame Harriet Walter.

And that's just a few. We tend to chat for about 45 minutes to an hour never longer.

It's terrific conversation, reminiscent where appropriate and exchange of anecdotes.

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Hey people on the show this week how to break up with your phone. A terrific interview

with an incredibly smart reporter who has written a book about changing your relationship

with your phone that doesn't mean going off to live in a mountain and crushing your phone

under your car tire. It's really about having a different relationship or more mindful

relationship with your devices. So we'll get to Catherine Price in a second but first

your voice mails. Here's number one.

Hi Dan my name's Nick. I'm called in Tokyo. I can't be walking around the interior

palace while I listen to the podcast. I thought I'd bring in the question and that is do

you think that you can become too dependent on guided meditation? What's the right balance

between guided and unguarded meditation and does guided meditation will become better

or worse as meditation? Thanks very much.

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