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Hey, 10%ers. Great guest this week as you're clined. You probably know them. Big podcaster,

journalist editor at large for Vox. And we're going to talk about all sorts of things.

How meditation has helped them and how it has not in the age of Trump. And whether he thinks

mindfulness can play a role in the insidious, pernicious problem of political tribalization.

First though, one piece of business and then your calls. The piece of business mentioned

last week, but bears repeating. There are, I believe, still a few tickets left for the

event in LA that I'm going to be doing on Wednesday, May 2nd at 8 o'clock with Sam Harris.

That will be at the Skurball Cultural Center Skurball.org. That's me and Sam. We'll just be

wrapping. It'll probably end up on one or both of our podcasts at some point, but should

be fun. Let's get to the phone calls. Here we go.

Yeah, I, Dan. This is Rod calling from New Zealand. Thanks for all your great work.

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