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GAZA: QATAR IS THE PROBLEM. JONATHAN SCHANZER

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🗓️ 16 July 2025

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GAZA: QATAR IS THE PROBLEM. JONATHAN SCHANZER
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0:00.0

I'm John Batchel with my colleague, Jonathan Shanzer, at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy's Executive Director.

0:10.3

The headline out of Jerusalem, ceasefire talks are still in the first phase.

0:14.7

That's a quote from Qatar.

0:16.7

Intensifying, says Qatar.

0:18.9

Jonathan, it is so well along the road here. This looks like a stalling

0:23.2

tactic. What is Qatar's game? What is Hamas' game, too, say it's in the first phase?

0:29.1

Yeah, look, I'm not particularly sanguine about these current negotiations, primarily because

0:34.7

the Qataris are involved. And I think we need to come to terms with the fact that the

0:39.5

Qataris from the beginning have stretched out these talks over the hostages. I think the leverage that

0:47.3

they have over Hamas as their primary financial patron as the safe haven for Hamas leaders.

0:56.1

They have an office in Doha that the Qataris have offered.

1:00.0

Dating back, actually, to the beginning of the Syrian Civil War,

1:03.6

you have to remember Hamas left Syria in 2011, 2012,

1:07.6

as they could no longer stomach the Assad regime slaughtering Sunnis and slaughtering

1:12.1

Palestinians. So they moved to Qatar. They've now been there for a decade and a half, and the

1:17.5

Qataris continue to advocate for their Muslim Brotherhood splinter clients, their anti-Israel,

1:24.0

violent jihadi clients. This is what the Qataris continue to do, and they have unbelievable

1:29.6

access at the White House. They're trusted by Stephen Whitkoff, the president's advisor. They're

1:35.3

trusted by Trump himself, so much so that the president was willing to accept a 747 plane from

1:41.7

the Qataris to serve as Air Force One.

1:45.3

But let's just be clear.

1:46.7

The Qataris, they are going to prioritize Hamas's survival over the release of hostages and over the end of the war.

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