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BERLIN. BORIS PISTORIUS DRIVES THE BUS. JUDY DEMPSEY, SENIOR SCHOLAR, CARNEGIE ENDOWMENT FOR INTERNATIONAL PEACE IN BERLIN.

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🗓️ 16 July 2025

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BERLIN. BORIS PISTORIUS DRIVES THE BUS. JUDY DEMPSEY, SENIOR SCHOLAR, CARNEGIE ENDOWMENT FOR INTERNATIONAL PEACE IN BERLIN.
MAY 1953

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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World. Here's John Batchelor. On a beautiful summer's day in New England,

0:14.6

I go to a beautiful summer's day in Berlin with Judy Dempsey. We're looking, however, at the troubles in Europe, not just the happiness of the

0:25.0

vegetation. And the troubles in Europe evolve completely around the Ukraine conflict, which

0:32.1

drags on because Mr. Putin, we're told, talks peace in the morning and another salvo of missiles and drones at night.

0:41.1

The important character here for Germany is a man named Boris Pistorius.

0:46.6

Yes, the new chancellor is refreshing.

0:49.4

Boris Pistorius was in the previous government.

0:53.1

He is a social democrat.

0:55.2

That's right.

0:56.2

He's not CDU.

0:57.7

He's not CSU.

0:58.8

He's not right of center.

1:00.2

He's left of center.

1:01.8

He is the defense minister, was the defense minister, and was kept on by popular acclaim.

1:07.7

His visits to Washington, his visits to Keefe are an important roadmap for where Germany

1:13.7

is headed. We all know that Germany can provide the industry that will rearm Europe. It can also

1:21.8

bolster what is ahead of us in very difficult warfighting in Ukraine. So who is Boris Pistorius? What do we need to

1:31.8

note? Judy Dempsey from the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. She's a senior scholar,

1:38.0

can help me understand the contradictions of one minister. Judy, a very good evening to you.

1:44.7

Olaf Schultz's government did not succeed in convincing the German people that there

1:49.4

was a zeitend.

1:51.2

However, Boris Pistorius, all by himself, was often the strength of the Schultz government

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