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SYRIA: ANARCHY. JONATHAN SCHANZER

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 16 July 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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SYRIA: ANARCHY. JONATHAN SCHANZER
DECEMBER 1958

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0:00.0

This is CBS, Eye on the World. I'm John Batchel. Thrill to welcome Jonathan Shanzer, the executive director of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy, to help me sort out a story that is tumbling all around us, but has no clear lines.

0:20.4

This is in a place of Syrian nationality

0:24.1

called Sueda Province. It's southernmost, and it juts into Jordan on the international border.

0:31.4

However, it is also a place where, within these last hours, fighting is reported from one side to the other, but the sides are the puzzle.

0:43.8

The Bedouins are attacking the Druze.

0:45.8

These are two subsets of the whole region.

0:48.8

They spread across sovereign territory lines.

0:52.9

At the same time, the Bedouins are said to be supported by the Syrian

0:56.2

National Army, which used to be understood as either al-Qaeda or ISIS. The Druze are allied with

1:04.6

Israel and have been for some time, though there are questions raised about did the Druze support

1:10.3

the Assad regime before Assad

1:12.9

fled. The complication now becomes profound because they're reporting yesterday and again today

1:20.8

out of London that the Israeli Air Force has sent a signal by attacking a tank. Tanks in Sueda province.

1:30.4

There is a photograph in the AP and in Reuters showing large armored cars, the kind that the U.S.

1:38.0

invented for Iraq in a convoy followed by ordinary vehicles, and a Bedouin tribesman on a motorcycle riding past all

1:46.9

wrapped up in black jihad clothes that's enough Jonathan i come to you can you sort any of this out

1:53.5

because yesterday it was a malange good evening to you good evening john yes i Syria the new Syria we're calling it, reminds me quite a bit of the old Syria.

2:05.6

In other words, what we're watching is still a country that is not at peace with itself.

2:11.4

The area that you've talked about here, Suuida is dominated in large part by Druze,

2:16.7

although there are, of course, Sunni Muslims there as well,

2:19.4

which is the makeup of the current government.

2:22.7

What we're looking at right now is a country that is still ironing out the kinks, as it were,

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