Hello and welcome to the scriptures are real podcast.

This is the podcast where we talk about elements or times when the scriptures

became real to us because we think when they're real, it helps us draw more power from

them and we need all the power we can get.

I'm your host, Kerry Mielstein, and I'm so excited to have my guest today a dear friend since, I don't know, probably like 1993 or something like I, maybe that makes us both sound old.

Yeah, this is my dear friend, Gay Stratharne, who has been my colleague in ancient scripture. I mean, we were both adjunct

before we were full time together. And now she's the associate dean here in our College of

Religious Education, a fantastic scholar, but more than that, a fantastic teacher. Her specialties in

New Testament, but she knows so much more than that,

and you'll hear that in the moment. But most importantly, to me, a fantastic person,

a dear kind soul. Oh, in fact, I've just thought of a story you probably don't want me to tell,

and we can cut it out if you, edit it out if you don't want, but this will give you an idea

of how kind gay is.

My very, so as I said, we were both adjunct professors for a long time and then gay came back full time.

I think you were still working on your dissertation, but came back full time.

And then I was at BYU, and then I came back.

And my first semester, I think, I was going to teach full time here

and we did a social event and we were playing laser tag and I think they'd given us some

rules about not sticking your gun through a hole or so I can't remember but I remember seeing

there was this little blind and there was a hole in it.

I thought, I think I see someone in there.

And so I stuck my little gun through so I could shoot whoever was over there.

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