Gaslit by Terror: How the World Got Brutally Duped
The Dr. Phil Podcast
Dr. Phil McGraw
4.4 • 13.2K Ratings
🗓️ 27 September 2025
⏱️ 26 minutes
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Summary
Dr. Phil and Jonathan Sacerdoti dismantle Hamas propaganda, expose rising antisemitism, and call out campus protests fueling dangerous lies.
The world watched in horror after October 7th but how did global opinion flip so fast? Dr. Phil revisits the conversation wtih international affairs journalist Jonathan Sacerdoti to confront the lies, propaganda, and mob-fueled narratives excusing terrorism.
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| 0:00.0 | I just have to ask you, not long ago I was very proud to receive the |
| 0:08.5 | Allyship Award from the Simon Wiesenthal organization in Toronto. |
| 0:14.5 | And it was there that I had some time and watched your presentation at the Oxford Union. I've been invited to speak there |
| 0:24.2 | this summer. You made a post after that. You said the experience of speaking at the Oxford Union |
| 0:30.7 | last night was sobering. It had been packed with aggressive and close-minded people, including the president, who invited us to speak on a warped motion and attempted at every stage to undermine us. |
| 0:46.3 | The level of support for terrorists and actions was chilling. |
| 1:02.0 | And you went on to say that many Jews that were going to attend told you that they just feared being there. And I watched your entire speech, which was, I thought, very courageous. |
| 1:10.0 | And I thought you were a study in patience and self-control, |
| 1:14.9 | because they were baiting you every turn, calling you every name in the book, and you didn't |
| 1:22.9 | take the bait. |
| 1:23.7 | You stayed on point, and I just wondered if you could opine on that experience in the face of such hatred, name-calling, and attacks from people that just seemed ignorant. |
| 1:38.3 | They're just uninformed. You seem to stay calm in the face of it all. What was it like? |
| 1:43.3 | Well, firstly, thank you for your |
| 1:44.9 | kind words about it. It was an extraordinary experience. I was a student myself as an undergraduate |
| 1:51.1 | many years ago in Oxford University, and it wasn't exactly like that when I was there. But there |
| 1:58.0 | were hints already, even back then of anti-Semitism in that institution, |
| 2:01.8 | the Oxford Union, the debating society, as I mentioned in that speech. |
| 2:06.0 | And, you know, I've been, as much as I was upset by what happened there and disgusted by that |
| 2:14.7 | behaviour, I've also been enormously reassured by the response that it's had from around the world |
| 2:21.3 | because the speech I gave my response to that torrent of abuse that I got for two, three minutes, |
| 2:31.9 | solid that literally drew the whole thing to a halt at one point |
| 2:35.4 | has been viewed by over 12 million people just on my Instagram account. |
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