Hello everyone and welcome to Talk Nurdy. Today is Monday, May 22nd,

2023 and I'm the host of the show Kara Santa Maria. And before we dive into

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All right, well, it's been a busy one here.

I'm really cracking the whip trying to get my dissertation

finished within the next month or so.

So if you notice I'm not quite as active on social media, not quite as active in responding,

and if the podcast is sometimes a day or too late,

that would be why, but I am sticking with it

and I'm really appreciative of all of your support

during this super hard process.

I've got a really good one for you today.

It's a little bit of a different flavor, but still I think personally like right up my alley. I had the opportunity to speak with Adrian Hone. He's the CEO and founder of Games developer Six to Start, the co-creator

of zombies run and also a columnist for Edge magazine. He studied neuroscience at the University of Cambridge, the University of Oxford, and the University of California, San Diego. And he has a new book out called You've Been played, how corporations, governments, and schools use

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