Hello and welcome with the Bullwark podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. I delighted to welcome. I think for the first time, host of the GD Politics Podcast, also GD Politics on Substack, a formally host of the 538 Politics Pod, and he's got a recent piece in the New York Times arguing the Democrats need their own Trump for 2028, but not in the way you're worried about. It's Gail and Drew. What's up, man? Hey, how's it going? Thanks so much for having me. It's a pleasure to be here.

It's going well. It's going well. I mean, I don't, should you've just gone with the goddamn America

podcast? Are you a little concerned about the GD there? Just whether that's sending the wrong

signals to any potential Christian subscribers? Well, I thought of that, which is why I also purchased gosh darned Politics.com when I was setting up the site. So we have Gdip Politics.com, Gaylandrieupe Politics.com, and gosh darned Politics.com, because we're an inclusive community, you know? Okay. Gosh darn politics. So that is sweet. I think maybe I think maybe I'm voting for that one, but we'll see how it goes. All right. I've got a bunch to talk to you about. I want to get eventually to that Trump article, which we agree with passionately, fervently, hence you're coming on the pod, you know, because I like to have passionate agreements with people. and so we'll get to that. But we got some new stuff we got to do first. So since we taped yesterday's pod, the BBB, the one big beautiful bill act, which is no longer called that actually, Chuck Schumer got a big win. I don't know if you saw this in the Senate yesterday. He got a big win and he forced the Republicans to change the name of the bill. So big kudos to Chuck Schumer on

that. It's past the Senate. It's going over to the House right now. You either said or wrote that

this looks to be the least popular major legislation passed since at least 1990. So I just want to

start biggest picture before we get down into kind of the

vote, the politics, the vote itself. Like, why do you think it's so unpopular? Talk about that.

Yeah. So this was actually some analysis from Chris Warshaw at George Washington University,

who looked at the popularity of major legislation that's been passed since at least 1990.

And this looks to be the least popular.

Less popular things have been considered, like repealing the Affordable Care Act in 2017,

that was less popular, but it failed.

And looking at-

What about W's Social Security privatization?

Where did we fit on that?

My boy.

Well, Tim, that didn't actually happen.

So it wasn't included in the big legislation that got passed.

But I have to imagine that somewhere near this and where this polls on average is about

25 percentage points underwater, looking at four recent polls from reliable pollsters.

And so it's pretty bleak. And why is this happening? I think it's because this is an issue that

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