Sam Stein: This Is the Country They Want

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.6 • 8.9K Ratings

🗓️ 3 July 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Republicans are creating, and celebrating, an immigration police state financed by their megabill. Our cities will be militarized, we'll have prison camps, more masked agents, and more dehumanization—like their sicko alligator hats. And the motivation all seems to be so Trump has a win and the Dems don't. But this is Stephen Miller's administration now. Expect net zero migration, less tourism, less international business, and a lower GDP. As we head into Independence Day, it's hard to see the Jeffersonian aspirational promise of America right now. Plus, the administration's freeze on some air defense weapons to Ukraine, how a younger Sam used to think about Bill Kristol, and Candace Owens's potential influence on geopolitical affairs.

Sam Stein joins Tim Miller for the holiday weekend pod.
show notes

This week's TNL
Adrian on how deportations are impacting the Latin music industry
Will Sommer's new piece that Sam referenced
Jefferson's letter to Roger Weightman
Tim's playlist
Tim's July 4th playlist

Food relief organizations to support, mentioned in the Nick Kristof interview
Helen Keller International
Edesia Nutrition in Rhode Island
Mana Nutrition in Georgia

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0:00.0	Rural communities are being squeezed from every side.
0:05.0	From rising health care costs to crumbling hospitals,
0:08.0	from attacks on public schools to the fight for paid family and medical leave.
0:13.0	Farmers and small businesses are reeling from the trade war,
0:18.0	and now Project 2025 is back with a plan to finish what Elon Musk started.
0:24.8	Trump and the Republicans won rural votes, then turn their backs on us.
0:30.8	Join the One Country Project for the Rural Progress Summit, July 8 through the 10th.
0:36.8	This free virtual event brings together leaders
0:39.9	like Senator Heidi Highcamp, Secretary Pete Buttigieg,
0:43.9	Governor Andy Beshear and others
0:46.0	for real talk and real solutions.
0:49.2	Together we'll tackle the most urgent issues
0:52.4	facing rural America.
0:54.1	Register today or learn more at RuralProgress.com.
0:58.0	Hello and welcome to the Bullard podcast.
1:15.0	I'm your host, Tim Miller.
1:17.0	By the time you all hear this, I will be flying over the Atlantic with a wine and a novel.
1:21.8	So if you need one more hour with my dulcet tones in your ears before a one week reprieve,
1:27.2	head on over to the next level feed on your
1:29.1	podcast to have a choice because yesterday's show was like was an absolute banger i do have to say
1:34.3	uh so make sure you're catching the next level every wednesday one of the programming note
1:39.3	uh that's very sweet i received a very grateful message from the folks at Manna, which is a food relief
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