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The Bulwark Podcast

E. Jean Carroll and Sarah Longwell: Such a Bad Man

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 1 July 2025

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

Ever the journalist, E. Jean took assiduous notes about her two civil suits against Donald Trump, the only occasions he has been held liable for his lies since he became president. And while the origin story of her cases is situated in an infamous department store dressing room, she managed to find a high comedy in the courtroom—her description of Alina Habba is one for the ages. Plus, as the reconciliation bill was moving toward final passage in the Senate, Sarah and Tim discussed the preposterous Frankenstein bill, how Republicans are not listening to their voters, and the worthlessness of Lisa Murkowski.

Sarah Longwell and E. Jean Carroll join Tim Miller.

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0:00.0

All right. Hey, everybody. We've got a wild schedule today, given everything that's going on on the Hill.

0:04.9

So I just want to kind of talk to you about the pod calendar, what you're going to be getting from me today and this week.

0:10.7

Up first is E. Jean Carroll. And I got to tell you, she's a spitfire. Just finished that conversation.

0:16.8

And that will be a nice tonic for your day. And so I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.

0:22.7

We did something a little different in segment two.

0:24.6

I went live with Sarah Longwell to discuss the drama that was going on on the hill with the BBB.

0:31.5

As we were talking, all signs were pointing to the fact that Lisa Murkowski was going to fold and be the 50th vote

0:39.8

with J.D. Vance is the tiebreaker that passed Trump's big fugly slut. And that happened just right after

0:47.0

Sarah and I taped. But, you know, all of the context of that conversation was sort of based around

0:53.2

what we expected, which was that Lisa

0:55.4

Markowski was in the end going to fold.

0:58.0

Kind of crazy.

0:59.1

After all of that, Murkowski gives a press conference later in the day that says that my hope

1:03.9

is that the house is going to look at this and recognize we're not there yet.

1:07.6

Lisa Murkowski voted for a bill she doesn't even think is done or good and gave the

1:13.5

time breaking. It's just, that's unbelievable. And Sarah has a lot of harsh words on that topic. So

1:20.5

that's what we did in segment two. Wanted to make sure we got the news to you guys and just one

1:24.8

other update on all that. stuff happens we are doing breaking

1:29.0

live takes more and more and usually that stuff is going into the bulwark takes feed so make

1:34.2

sure you subscribe to that on your podcast player of choice and then coming up this week just so folks

1:39.9

know and can plan we've got a podcast tomorrow and Thursday, and then I'm on holiday. I think you

1:46.9

should go on holiday too, you know, the daylies, the people, those of you who, you know, stick with

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