What's up, folks? Welcome back to the WOOP podcast. I'm your host, Will Amit, founder and CEO of WOOP,

and we are on a mission to unlock human performance. That's right. We build technology,

hardware, software, analytics. It's designed to monitor you. I think the biggest differentiation of WOOP from other

products is that we help you understand your body, change behavior, and improve your health. It's

that simple. And it's the season to team up. Now when you buy a 12-month WOOP membership,

you can get a second membership for 30% off.

It's a pretty good deal.

Okay, this week's guest, Drew Manning, personal trainer and the founder of fit to fat to fit.

Drew is in the middle of a deliberate effort to gain 60 pounds in four months. That's right. It's a masochistic,

crazy, crazy idea of his. But because he is a personal trainer and because he's had clients

tell him that he couldn't possibly understand what it was like to gain weight and lose it,

he actually is taking this on himself.

And so this is unbelievable. If you look at Drew, a photo of Drew before he did this, I mean,

he's got an eight pack. He's got like 8% body fat. And now he looks really uncomfortable.

And so we talk about this journey that he's on right now to be gaining the weight.

And he discusses the mental and the emotional toll of that weight gain and how difficult

the process has been.

What it's like going through this experience now that he is about to be 40 years old.

And what is it like to gain that much weight at that age?

And how he's using whoop to monitor his body during the weight gain.

Drew's been a long time whoop member.

So 8% body fat Drew wore whoop.

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