or your immune system taking care of surveillance of this part of your body,

have to enlarge so that it's able to protect other parts of your body,

for example, your liver.

I see it's that simple, but most people, for some reason, do not see it like this.

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Everything you need to know will be right here. And we're on. Hey, Gabor Airdalsi. Great to see you again. Hey, Ivor. It's a pleasure

to talk to you again. Yeah, it always is. So, Master of Microbiology, but mainly your experience has come from a huge amount of personal research and your experience with starch processing and many other things. But I was going to start off with just having you retell your story about your autoimmune and other conditions that were quite

severe and significant in your life and how you actually went about finding out the biochemistry

the pathology of what was happening and actually resolving it yeah in in fact i i usually call myself a sofa researcher, so that's what I do. I'm reading on my

iPad usually different kind of stuff, which have some interest. Well, it's been more than five

years now, and it just started out as kind of a health journey

with my mother telling me that, son, you are really overweight, you should do something.

You have a family, you have to take care of your kids and you are into this in the long run.

So you have something like 30 kilos extra and that's not healthy.

And yeah, I just realized that over the years, over the years I had picked up something like 30,

32 kilos that's around 70 pounds for the US folks.

And I was trained in biology, I mean molecular biology formally, but I had no clue at that

time how to lose weight.

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