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And then if I understand the kind of the historical background, the healthy physiology,

then I may be able to address how it goes wrong.

But without having a very good picture of dimension two factors, I think it's impossible to get a good understanding of what goes wrong. And then you can come up with crazy things like bombardering your blood

vessels with particles which have been there for millennia. And then suddenly these are

these these are harmful. I agree. And I the mechanistic science and the evolutionary science and

origins and the healthy state of a body, healthy physiology, what that works like.

And all of these things are crucial when you're looking at a new problem to see, you know, what its mechanisms are.

But you're right.

There's a simplistic view taken that that millions of years old, exotic, crucial, say, lipoproteins are now suddenly the main cause

you know for a problem that only started really in the 19th and 20th century so there's an absurdity

there we'll come back again i want to come back to the personal fat threshold but just

because we're on the topic now of of cardiovascular disease and to continue our point uh I

recently and based in research like to look at the primary problematic things to lead to

atherosclerosis and the inflammatory issue in your arterial wall.

And I try to keep in mind all of the technology and all my research like you do.

But there is the number of particles being higher will promote more of the problem.

That's the suggestion.

And I think that's okay because if you have a fundamental problem with your

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