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Hello everyone and welcome back to On the Mend. If you're new here, I'm very, very happy you found the show.

My name is Matt Willis and on this podcast I chat to my guests about their hard-earned wisdom when it comes to resilience.

And my guest today knows a thing or two about that, having combined two of the most

competitive industries there are, sport and broadcasting.

I'm speaking to none other than Gabby Logan.

Now, Gabby competed in the Commonwealth Games as a gymnast, but when her career as an athlete

came to an abrupt end, she went on to become the first female football

anchor on terrestrial television. Now that was back in 2004, and in the decades since then,

it feels like there's pretty much no sporting event that she hasn't covered. She's just

presented her fifth Olympic Games and leads the BBC's live football rugby and a flex coverage.

I mean, that's pretty massive in it.

Gabby has also been hosting her podcast at the Midpoint for the last four years

and is one half with the sports agents, a twice weekly podcast that covers all the major stories

in and around sport.

Gabby has perfected the art of asking questions.

So, no pressure, but I can't wait always chat to her. Let's do this. Hi, Gabby. How are you? Hi, Matt. I'm very well. Thank you very much for having me. It's nice to see you. It's nice to see you. I'll let everyone know we just did your podcast, which was lovely. You're peaking behind the curtain, aren't you? We are, a little, a little peek. We've just swapped places. We have, which is nice, because we both filmed them at the same place. It's worked out perfectly. Yeah, yeah. Except I'm now not in the driving seat. Exactly. Are you ready? Yeah. You've always kind of been involved in sport, would you say? Yes, pretty much my whole life. Pretty much a whole life. When did you first kind of fall in love with it, do you think?

It was something we always did. I think my mom, having a professional footballer for a father, meant sport provided us with a lifestyle of living and an income and everything else. So our lives revolved around sport even from being born. So do you think it was inevitable that you would... Yeah, I think my mum, although she wasn't super sporty herself, saw the benefits of sport

early on about how her kids could be active, busy, get confidence.

So she was more than happy to be putting us into different clubs and doing different sports

and trying different things and wanted to keep us busy, I think. and our sport was that outlet. I always say that if my dad had been a virtuoso violinist, I'd have probably been playing the cello or something. Yeah. That was our family thing. We didn't have a bass guitarist father, right? Right, okay. So we ended up with sport, I guess, and that was our meet, that was our love language.. Yeah, well that's funny because my kids are all quite performance led. Yeah. You know, they're all like, get them on a stage. You can't stop it. Yeah. Like so, and I, but I don't really ever think I really ever pushed that. Like, it's not like I ever kind of felt like I was pushing towards that. They just kind

of seemed to have naturally gravitated towards it. Maybe that's a compliment that they've seen you and Emma and feel like that's a really fun, cool place to be. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. So do you think that was kind of what happened with you? Or do you think? Yeah. I think and we had a certain amount of aptitude, you know, we weren't bad at it. So when you're good at something as a kid, it gives you

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