- Pablos Holman described his path from early computer hacking to founding deep-tech ventures like Blue Origin and running a VC fund focused on inventors building real-world, non-software technologies.
- Pablos framed technological progress as periodic "toolkit upgrades," comparing today's advances in computation and simulation to the impact of the steam engine.
- Modern computational models enable simulations of complex systems like disease spread, cities, and supply chains, dramatically improving decision-making.
- The conversation highlighted AI's true value as modeling the world while warning of over-centralization and privacy tradeoffs in the near term.
- Global energy scarcity is the real bottleneck to progress and peace, requiring a massive scale-up in clean, cheap energy.
- Nuclear power is the only viable path to global energy production and described new reactor designs nearing deployment.
- The discussion explored how regulatory and political systems, rather than technology itself, are often the biggest obstacles to innovation, especially in healthcare and energy.
- Pablos criticized social media for societal damage but argued the core issue is human responsibility and misuse rather than the technology itself.
- AI and crypto represent an open experimental phase where individuals can still influence outcomes before power consolidates.
- Pablos encouraged people to actively engage with and help build meaningful technologies instead of passively reacting to technological change.
Future Technology... How To Invest In The Future
Money Tree Investing
Money Tree Investing Podcast
4.6 • 733 Ratings
🗓️ 13 February 2026
⏱️ 70 minutes
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New technology is coming soon and here is how to invest in the future! Inventor and investor Pablos Holman shares his journey from early computer hacking to co-founding Blue Origin, leading a prolific deep-tech lab, and now backing "mad scientists" building hard technologies beyond software. He believes Silicon Valley has over-indexed on easy software gains while neglecting transformative advances in hardware, energy, and real-world systems. He explains how breakthroughs in computation now let us model and simulate the physical world, from disease eradication to supply chains, marking a toolkit upgrade on par with the steam engine, while also wrestling with the social, regulatory, and human challenges that slow progress. We talk AI's real potential beyond chatbots, the urgent need to 10x global energy, decentralization vs. centralization in tech, the societal costs of social media, and even more!
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Money Tree Investing Podcast. Stock market, wealth, personal finance, value stocks, invest in your life. Hello, Smart Money Tree Podcast listeners. Welcome to this week's show. My name is Kirk Chisholm. I'll be your host. And today I'm joined with Pablo's Holman. Hey, don't like Pablo's. Hey there. I'm rocking. Awesome. Well, glad to have you in the show. For those of you don't know, Pablo's, |
| 0:23.6 | tell us a bit about your background. Well, I'm an inventor. I spent the first part of my career |
| 0:28.1 | computer hacking and trying to make computers better and bring them into more and more places. |
| 0:34.3 | And then in 2001, I sort of defected hacking everything but computers |
| 0:39.2 | and helped start Blue Origin, which is a spaceship company, building rockets. And then I started a lab |
| 0:46.0 | with Nathan Mirvald to invent all kinds of new technologies. And our team got 6,000 patents on our |
| 0:52.6 | own inventions there. And these are things that we call deep tech. |
| 0:57.0 | So this is, you know, everything about software, basically. |
| 1:00.4 | That really shaped how I think about the world. |
| 1:03.1 | You know, I think we sort of got drunk on software |
| 1:05.1 | and we think we live in this world full of technology, |
| 1:07.2 | but it's mostly just a world full of software. |
| 1:09.6 | And there's all kinds of other technologies |
| 1:11.9 | that we could be developing and bringing into the world, but they've been getting ignored by Silicon |
| 1:17.5 | Dally. And so these days, I run a venture capital fund, investing in mad scientists who are |
| 1:23.7 | bringing these inventions to life. And so that's where I'm coming from, I guess, the short version. |
| 1:28.9 | Yeah, it's an interesting perspective. |
| 1:30.0 | Why do you think they're ignoring anything that's not software? |
| 1:33.2 | They say hardware is hard. |
| 1:34.7 | That's why it's called hardware. |
| 1:36.4 | There's a conventional wisdom around that. |
| 1:38.8 | And they're not wrong. |
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