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🗓️ 13 May 2025
⏱️ 42 minutes
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In this special Mother’s Day episode, Dr. Kim Kimberling sits down with bestselling author Melanie Shankle to talk about her latest book, Here Be Dragons. Together, they unpack the complexities of generational trauma and explore what it means to break old cycles in order to build a new legacy of healthy relationships. It’s a conversation that’s honest, refreshing, and full of humor. Whether you're a mother or not, this episode has something for you!
Episode highlights include:
Generational trauma affects emotional growth and relationships.
Self-worth can be deeply impacted by parental relationships.
Humor can be a coping mechanism for deeper issues.
Recognizing unhealthy patterns is crucial for personal growth.
Parenting requires intentionality and awareness of past traumas.
Melanie embraced her daughter's individuality instead of molding her.
Healing can come from being the parent you wished you had.
True love is built on friendship and authenticity.
Identifying generational trauma requires honest self-assessment.
Creating a positive legacy is essential for future generations.
God's timing is perfect in relationships.
Healing is a journey that takes baby steps.
There can be beauty in the ashes of our past.
Couples Conversation Guide:
Main takeaway:
If you were raised in the midst of unhealthy relationships, take heart—there is hope in Christ for a better future. Healing from past wounds opens the door to the freedom and joy of healthy, life-giving relationships. Along the journey, boundaries will protect your peace, forgiveness will soften your heart, and Christ must remain the foundation of it all.
Questions to Discuss:
What messages or behaviors from our families growing up do we find ourselves repeating—intentionally or not—in our relationship or with our children?
When we face conflict or stress, do our reactions feel like our own—or do they echo how our parents or caregivers responded?
Are there parts of our past—such as experiences of neglect, abuse, shame, or loss—that we haven’t fully processed and might be impacting how we show up for each other and our children?
What do you hope your legacy will be?
Quotes from today's episode:
"It's okay to not be perfect."
“You’ve gotta have your truthtellers”
“There are things we may not see as big, but they become big.”
“I always deflected with humor because I didn’t want to feel anything too deeply.”
“They’ve achieved all these things that the world says is success, but they’re still empty.”
“It’s so healing to be the thing in someone else’s life that you wish you would have had in your own.”
“I didn’t get to have that mother, but I get to be that mother.”
“There is something so beneficial about having someone who’s not your friend, validate some of the experiences you’ve been through.”
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Melanie Shankle’s Here Be Dragons
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0:00.0 | Welcome to the loss of marriage podcast, where we're dedicated to building stronger, healthier, and more fulfilling relationships. |
0:13.6 | I'm your host, Dr. Kim Kimmerling, and I've been counseling couples for 40 years and married to my amazing life fancy for 55 years. |
0:20.0 | Our goal is to help your marriage thrive. |
0:21.6 | We exist to help hurting marriages heal. |
0:24.6 | Healthy marriages grow in families, stay together. |
0:27.6 | Each week we bring you practical tips, expert insights, and real stories from couples who are making their marriage is truly awesome. |
0:35.6 | So whether you're nearlyit, celebrating decades together, |
0:38.5 | or anywhere in between, you're in the right place to take your marriage from good to awesome. |
0:43.3 | So thanks for joining us today. Let's dive you on. |
0:50.3 | Hey, welcome today's awesome marriage podcast. I have a very special guest today, Melanie Shankill. |
0:55.6 | She is joining me. She's the New York Times bestselling author of sparkly green earrings. |
1:00.9 | They don't open the living room. Nobody's cuter than you. And the new book, we're going to talk a lot about |
1:06.1 | here be dragons, treading the deep waters of motherhood, mean girls, and generational trauma. |
1:12.5 | Melanie speaks to events all over the country. She's co-hosts of the wildly popular podcast, |
1:17.0 | The Big Boocast. Most importantly, she's married to husband Perry. They're the parents to their |
1:21.7 | daughter, Caroline. They live in San Antonio, Texas. Let's go to the studio right now so you can meet |
1:26.8 | Melanie. Well, Melanie, |
1:28.6 | welcome to the Awesome Marriage Podcast. Thank you for being with us today. I'm excited about this |
1:32.6 | interview. I've been looking forward to it. I know you've been a busy lady lately, so I'm glad |
1:37.1 | we've finally got time to get together. Me too. Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to have this conversation and happy to be on the show. Oh, thanks so much. So let's got to |
1:45.2 | start in about the book, the new book. How hard was it for you to write this book? You know, it's funny |
1:51.5 | because when I first started writing it, I thought, well, this isn't going to be that hard. You know, |
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